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Can anyone remove my userpage's protection, please?

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SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

I may not be an admin anymore, but this is still my userpage, and I still want to be able to edit it. Can you also do the same thing with my userpage on Awesome Games Wiki, please? Thanks.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Hello? Is anybody here?

Szczypak2005 (talkcontribs)

Wait for the dump, the possibility of becoming an admin will be free there for sure.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

So removing the protection now is impossible? I can't edit my own userpage until some dump occurs in the future?

Szczypak2005 (talkcontribs)

Maybe one of the admins will notice it or ask him, someone will do it.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

I tried asking Blazikeye, but he hasn't removed the protection yet. I even asked Katsumi, but he hasn't done anything, either.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Never mind, Blazikeye removed half of the protection, so I can edit it now.

I think we have an ApexAgunomu's sockpuppet.

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Szczypak2005 (talkcontribs)

That suspect is user:XXDrEggbotnikXx, hiss edits actually consist only of undoing someone else's edit just to introduce a custom header, something similar was done by his previous sockpuppet.

Bukkit (talkcontribs)

I don't think it's her as the account was made before the ban and sockpuppeteering, so checkuser should have found that account. I will warn them though.

Szczypak2005 (talkcontribs)

You may be right, but this suspect is definitely not older.

FatBurn0000 (talkcontribs)

While I can understand you bringing the back page here, I disagree with simply restoring it. Could you please get the original revisions from RWW too?

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

I don't know if I know how to do that. Even if I did, I still wouldn't, because this page still does a very well-done job explaining the event.

FatBurn0000 (talkcontribs)
  1. I'm not sure how myself, but you import it from the RWW dump file somehow. I think Blazikeye is the only one that has access to the dump file though.
  2. I want to merge the revisions because otherwise history will be lost.
FatBurn0000 (talkcontribs)

Why did you move the page back to its original title? Allistayrian moved it because Etika is their common name.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

The title of the Frosk having a meltdown on G4 page on TTSW had her full name, so why can't this page do the same?

FatBurn0000 (talkcontribs)

I didn't know that page existed, but the same thing should apply to that page, too. The common name, in my opinion, should be used, as writing their full name is unnecessary.

This page simplification has to stop

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Blazikeye535 (talkcontribs)

A lot of users (including myself and a good portion of the QP staff) have expressed disagreement with you simplifying pages. I get that you're trying to undo Allistayrian's overly-high quality standards, but with the way you're doing so is causing the exact opposite problem instead. I advise leaving these pages be and let the users make pages however they want.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

In general I think any huge reduction of a page is a big decision that should be able to be justified bit by bit and if someone disagrees with it or even reverts it the least that any user, including admins should do is make it a discussion. I don't think chopping them down to barebones has any meaningful positive effect and it's not an effort that seems to have been communicated with or endorsed by anyone else.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Okay, the reason why I've been simplifying pages is because thanks to Allistayrian and his influence on the users we have today, a lot of said pages are a bit overly-detailed and try way to hard to be like the ones on Wikipedia. Sure, a lot of the pages here like Elder Scrolls Blades have some important details, but in all honesty, I think those could be a bit shorter rather than expanded especially since an author can't think of anything else to say.

Additionally, a lot of pages also have unnecessary additional sections that add almost nothing to the pages like the one with 3D Adventures of Sailor Moon, in which that article has an unnecessary section called "Advertising of box" or whatever it's called, and if you ask me, "Why It Sucks/Rocks" and "Redeeming/Bad Qualities" (and "Bad/Good Qualities", too) should be the most important sections. Sure others like "Plot", "Trivia", "Reception", etc. also matter, but the former sections I mentioned above should take the overall spotlight like they always have ever since the FANDOM era.

Speaking of the FANDOM era, the pages there as well as the early Miraheze days before Allistayrian took over were a lot simpler and easier to read, because most of the users there really didn't care about the quality standards of how pages should be written and were so much more laid back than the people who use these wikis to this day, so I thought that now that Alli is gone again, I thought that I'd make these wikis like they used to be prior to late 2020.

I know I should've been a bit more communicative when we said that the wikis' standards should be lowered, but TBH, I thought my decision to trim down pages was self-explanatory and most users would agree to this decision, but it seems to me that most users still want to continue Allistayrian's legacy by writing articles the same way as they would Wikipedia for some reason, despite my failed attempt to make the wikis like they used to be, and if that's how things are gonna go from then on, then so be it.

I'm sorry if I made a lot of people mad at me, and I hope you can all forgive me. I was only doing what I thought was best for these wikis, and it looks like I've apparently done more harm than good. Please, don't view me as a bad person or compare me to the likes of Allistayrian when he took over. I'm not perfect, but I'm not as malicious as some of you might make me out to be, and am just a normal, sane person trying to do the right thing.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

There should be an in between, we do not need to enforce a policy of all or nothing. If people want to make wikipedia-style pages let them. If they want to make simpler (or for that matter, lower quality to a point pages) that's fine as well and if it slips too low it can be a blog. But there is no need to enforce one way all on your own with no promise of staff backup or agreement where to draw the line. That has been the problem of admins, many more than you and Allistayrian all along.

ZeusDeeGoose (talkcontribs)

I don't mind it on my pages, but this could potentially disrespectful to the creator's wishes. I think you should ask them before you do this.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

At you (somewhat) support my decision to downsize pages, Zeus.

King Dice (talkcontribs)

Cutting down the content of pages encourages people to make below the average pages, demotivates experimented users of making the job they want and sometimes can take away the effort and dedication of some pages.

Those made by Ally may be too long yes, but what about the good long pages made for fun and appreciation of that piece of media? Those will be butchered without thinking twice?

Marxo Grouch (talkcontribs)

I agree that this page simplification must cease. Just because you hate Allistayrian's page standards doesn't mean you have to remove a shitload of content from pages. You're only making yourself no better than him. What we should be doing is not encouraging the creation of overly simplistic pages, but rather encouraging people to make pages how they want to make them.

King Dice (talkcontribs)

Correct. If someone wants to make a page that fits the required things only and is short, let them. Someone wants to make a long page for fun, let then too.

We shouldn't encourage professionalism, but also not demonize it

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Oh, god, I have a feeling people are turning against me... okay, I'll stop downsizing pages now.

About the removed bad quality for the PC Master Race?

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Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

I think it should stay as the term is quite racist and offensive and meanspirited along with being elitist that also has ties with fascism!

Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

But that just me?

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

You know, you really don't have to create discussions every time someone reverts your edits.

Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

It because I hate the term with all my might or am I being an SJW?

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

I removed that quality because of how subjective it was; that term is only offensive (or in your case "racist", even though it really isn't) when someone himself gets offended by it for no reason. Can you please stop getting so worked up over a reverted edit?

Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

No but sorry about what I said can you forgive me?

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

You can't stop making a big deal about your edits getting reverted? That's pretty immature, if you ask me.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Please don't call yourself that. You're not an SJW from California. I will, however, have to block you if you keep acting that way.

Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

Sorry about that?

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Just try to be a bit more formal when editting pages or engaging in conversations with other users. Also, the fact that you add an "!" to nearly every single one of your pointers makes it look like you're throwing a tantrum and the edits you make look pretty rant-like.

An article for RGB rainbow lighting in 'gaming' hardware

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Summary by Raidarr

tldr, no, an article for RGB lighting is not authorized on further review.

The tangent this topic took went from mildly disruptive to somewhat productive back into the barrel of disruptive. Users who assume the worst of other members while being the ones to devolve the conversation with accusations and incivility will not be welcomed and are precisely the sort of issue I wish to see removed. Yes, this is a warning to the one party responsible in this case.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Hi SSK, do you think there should be a CGW article on RGB lighting? I've made a blog with reasons listed regarding why it is not 'gamer' and why it is lame otherwise, let me know what you think and I would like to see what the other admins have to say on this too.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Um... I don't know anything about it.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Oh, ok well that blog I linked to should tell you everything you need to know, I'll just ask the other admins here. So are you more of a console guy?

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Yes, I am. Though I am considering buying a Steam Deck whenever I can.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Are you sure? I mean you really can't compress a gaming tower's performance into a platform that size, not to mention the personal performance benefits from the usage of gaming-attuned keyboards, mice and monitors, but if its just portability you want then maybe a good gaming laptop would be a better option.

Dorothy Nightingale (talkcontribs)

What can we put on that page, that isn't something generic or based on opinion? RGB lighting would be entirely based on hardware that isn't entirely related to gaming, so I don't see why a page would be here. I'd like to see a sandbox and see how it turns out.

RGB lighting is optional however and if you don't want to get an RGB keyboard, you don't have to. Apple has these backlit keys, and no one minded.

Yonydesk (talkcontribs)

likewise, i'd like to see a sandbox of it in the sense of "i'd like to be proved wrong". i'm not someone who checks sandboxes or gives thoughts on pages and page ideas, but this one has catched my eye, because RGB is after all something optional afaik.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Didn't either of you read that blog, I see hardly anyone giving an option for non-RGB versions of any of their products, many people would prefer to pay less for the exact same product minus the RGB since it is does nothing and can only be detrimental to gaming performance.

Yonydesk (talkcontribs)

i did read the blog and as i said, source it or else i can't trust it if the source is "dude trust me". the time i looked for PC or gaming parts i didn't focus if it had RGB or not, that's why i asked for some confirmation on it

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Are you looking for a poll to sit on.

Yonydesk (talkcontribs)

just anything that can prove that, else it's biased no matter how you justify it. or reddit threads or popular twitter threads i don't care.

the problem is that for statements that rely on "people think this about this", you have to source it with a decent sample size that backs that collective thought up, else you're telling people that the general demographic thinks this but if there's a good collective of people that thinks the opposite, you won't be able to counter that. in this case, it'd be the audience the rainbow designs appeal to. (edit: just noticed i messed up the italics)

this is a problem on qualitipedia that dates back to even its origins in 2013 (maybe saved by youtube videos but i don't remember a convincing one), at least speaking for me personally i've been lurking since 2016 and used to trust these statements but, after not visiting the wikis for a while i compare them with my personal internet experience and it differs.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

SSK this user is trying to start a fight with me and I don't know why.

Yonydesk (talkcontribs)
Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Thank you I know what baited language looks like.

Yonydesk (talkcontribs)
Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Can't draw anything constructive from budget sophistry.

Yonydesk (talkcontribs)

i mean if you didn't understand anything then just ask me and i can happily reformulate it lol, no need to be a dick about it

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

SSK this bozo is tying to start something with me and I don't know why.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)
Yonydesk (talkcontribs)

@SuperStreetKombat we're not going off-topic here. the discussion has stayed constantly about if the article on RGB lights should be done or not, which is the central topic here even expressed on the title. specifically, i was adressing freighttrain's literal petition to "let me know what you think" written in the original post. i personally don't know freighttrain and don't hold anything agaisnt him, i was just answering to the thread giving my thoughts and trying to stay civil even at the comments i personally saw as intimidating.


i plead you to read all the conversation here to evaluate it yourself instead of automatically trusting freight's comment, which is frankly blank.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

SSK that was the user who replied on my appeal message page thread to Raidarr, I didn't ask for their input there as they weren't directly involved on that occasion, and it seems as if they are trying to insert themselves here too, and with the intent to cause a fight starting with their colourful reply to one of my comments on that Iceberg blog.

Just letting you know so that you can take notice of what they say to me and how they say it, and also in what topic of discussion this occurs, in case patterns begin to emerge from the context,

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

Enough. This conversation is devolving and now, the escalation per above has happened.

The conversation was fine until "Didn't either of you read that blog". Yony wanted sources behind it. The response ignored the question entirely and moved into "I'm being repressed" territory. Yony brings a good point. The blog linked lacks sources completely and I would refuse such a page as frivolous and lacking in substantial pointers. Energy draw is completely negligible, any significant latency or performance or heat issues are either very badly done lighting or require some very effective sources to prove as factual for a page, and all in all RGB use is entirely a matter of personal preference or opinion. The blog is perfectly acceptable as a blog. It is no grounds for a proper page.

We might as well leave it at that and stop trying to read into the bad intentions of others while the starting mess here could have been avoided by addressing the actual points, not targeting the person. This was not a good performance from you, Freight. If you want this conversation/blog page idea to stick, you need to be the user who refocuses on the concerns raised with the blog's credibility.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Hi Raidarr, it actually started with yoni's reply to my comment on that iceberg blog, my replies to them here came after, also yoni wanting sources is not constructive, they can do their own research, I've seen many videos on Youtube, and whenever RGB lighting comes up the computer hardware content creators frequently make a point of stating that they do not care for it, and aside from that I've also read much talk on this of a similar nature.

The computer gaming hardware companies do not seem to care, the red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple and black flag is being jammed so far up their butts by 'SJWs', why would they listen, so wannabe devil's advocate comments such as those made by yoni are not welcomed by me.

Anyway the main point I'm raising in my blog is that RGB rainbow lighting, while marketed as s 'gamer' feature and aesthetic, is actually not 'gamer' in any way since it can only impede performance, this much should now be clear to all here, so if an article were to be made here regarding this, it would focus on this misconception, that RGB lighting is far too frequently marketed as related to 'gaming', titled something like 'RGB Lighting as a 'Gamer' Aesthetic', so looking at it that way, you can see why it should have an article here alongside the many other articles, that relate to malpractice and incompetence in the video gaming industry.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

You want to make a page, you need to provide sources. This is a basic expectation across the wikis, even if it has a long way to go before it is enforced universally. Again, what you have is the makings of a blog, not a full on page given the significantly limited points and what appears to be an unwillingness to back them up personally. Dragging in SJWs is entirely off point. 'look it up yourself' is lazy. Various people not liking it is their opinion if the hardware sells and other people do. These are all things that would come up in the creation of a page itself. Yony was merely the first (well no, the second) to take note of this.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

Sure I can link many sources for all of the points I've raised. that's not the issue, I only had a problem with yoni's devil's advocate attitude, as in his initial comments he never mentioned that it was required for an article, talking as if I specifically had to convince just 'him' for some reason, which I wasn't about to fall for, and I don't think he's an admin here either. Also I don't see the why I can't also include the SJW angle in that blog, I'd prefer people be informed, and people who read and comment on it may bring further relevant information.

Also regarding what you say about the hardware still selling, well of course it's still going to sell since there is not actually an option for non-RBG models of the same product, but if there was an option for a less expensive version of the same hardware that simply lacks the unnecessary RGB lighting, then you can bet that they would sell just as well if not better, at least among serious gamers, which again is my point regarding what the article would focus on, that being how RGB is not actually a 'gamer' feature, despite it being ubiquitously marketed as such.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

There is nothing wrong with devil's advocacy, as a degree of challenge in most reasonable eyes helps lead to a stronger argument especially when more challenge comes in the future has has been the case with the wikis for a long time. If you didn't want to convince him or address his points, you may as well have ignored him. I specifically discount the SJW angle because I consider it irrelevant, but if you can properly rationalize it then perhaps it could stay. If it remains a blog, you can do as you wish with it without anyone picking it apart, which is really the beauty of keeping it in that format; you'll be accountable to comments, but not have the page (as mainspace article) picked apart or outright removed.

As far as my experience there are quite a few non-RGB models you can buy or build, which is primarily what I use anyway. Not that I'm convinced in any case that most RGB has substantial impact anyway. It all still sounds like an interesting blog as compared to a sustainable article that would last deeper scrutiny.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

If it's done with sincerity and used in the correct context, then no there's nothing wrong with playing the devil's advocate, however that is not what I sensed on this occasion, anyway I was looking for support not criticism, I didn't have any doubts about the points I've raised regarding RGN lighting in computer hardware, and I didn't expect anyone else to have any doubts doubts either, though I expect you to say what you want about the blatant connections to 'gay pride' that I pointed out.

Also yoni didn't raise any points that my blog hadn't already addressed, and only wanted sources, which I can find easily, but I'm not going to bother putting together a bibliography if no one else here cares about this topic.

And I don't know why you say I need to properly rationalise what I've written, it's simple and makes perfect sense, though sure you can choose not to believe specifically what I said about RGB lighting, how it is an indication of 'progressiveness' infiltrating the computer gaming hardware industry, but it's a bit difficult with neon rainbows blaring in your face.

Yes I am aware there is non-RGB gaming hardware available, certainly with custom builds, but again my point is that I don't think I've ever seen specifically non-RGB versions of any one specific piece of hardware that comes in RGB, though my main point is the marketing, almost every promotional image shows gaming hardware with RGB rainbow lighting, .

So my point is if I don't see any active interest in this issue, then it's probably just going to stay a blog for now, unless I decide to put together a bibliography for it later.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

Frankly I think we need to be trying to sense less from the other person, and assume and act on better faith. Doing so results in more more substantive discussion avoids devolving into personal, unconstructive argument. If it makes perfect sense to you and comes into challenge or isn't understood by others, then it is not as perfect as you think. You may well be right, but if other people don't see it then something at least in the delivery is incorrect.

A different explanation may be needed, or backup for what was stated is needed for it to have better impact. Considering it that way could very well change people's opinion, a necessary result for the page become more than a blog and to be understood and catch interest from more people. A step which could further the goal of making it into a page.

But if you don't wish to take that approach then I think we're about done, and in any case I thank you for the more constructive tangent that this conversation has taken. I advise you to consider both of the above blurbs however; not assuming ill intentions from the other commenter, and reconsidering your approach if it makes sense to you but is not received by others. If only you can understand, then the very purpose of discussing it has been lost and a change is needed to actually persuade the other person or at least not end up thinking less of them.

Freighttrain (talkcontribs)

My senses aren't wrong on things like this, and I know what baited language looks like too, and if you were to ask me what I thought had happened, then I would tell you that it is possible yoni is a 'sleeper troll', someone who appears to be a normal user or even an admin, but is secretly misaligned with 'SJW' interests, and who waits for certain stimuli, in this case I have pointed out what what looks a lot like a an 'RGBLT' conspiracy, and the sleeper troll having either related insider knowledge, or simply reacting to certain topics that are actively unaligned with the make of their their seat ornament, then suddenly changes their otherwise agreeable disposition and begins to move against that person and their works, starting with baiting or probing behaviour if the perceived transgression was unexpected, because in that case they wouldn't have been closely watching the person in question and wouldn't know how to quickly shut them down, this is what I believe I have been seeing over the past couple of days.

I've dealt with a sleeper admin on FANDOM before, one that was literally sleeping as they hadn't been active for maybe a year or more, before they suddenly appeared and banned my profile there for an arbitrary reason regarding a couple of my blogs, which some had mistakenly come to believe were franchise fan-fiction, when I had explained to them that this was not in fact the case. That sleeper admin quickly went back to sleep and one of the regular admin offered to unblock my profile if I were to delete my blogs there, but I declined as my blogs were the only actual editing I had done there so his offer was meaningless.

So you could call me overly suspicious or say that I have a wild imagination, but these senses developed from attention to detail and mindfulness of context, not paranoia or some other emotional base. For reference you may see a blog I made a couple of years ago on the Jurassic Park wiki, it describes what I believe looks like a conspiracy by misguided Chinese interests, to alter people's perception of the Spinosaurus genus toward some bizarre ultranationalist agenda.

Raidarr (talkcontribs)

Freighttrain, let me tell you what my senses tell me about you. You are combative, fail to recognize when you have 'lost the room' in terms of any humor you later say you were attempting which sows division in comment sections or thread topics or in making arguments that nobody else agrees with, and have been the subject of moderation actions that, while excessive, did not come out of nowhere (on these wikis - I can do nothing with an unverifiable Fandom anecdote). Your injection of political partisanship is unwelcome on the wikis, and this comes straight from the top. I hold reasonably high trust in Yony as one of the more balanced personalities and honest critics on the wikis. If you think what he's posted on your blog and on this thread are the workings of an SJW agenda, you're the only one who is a problem here.

I'll be your ultra super SJW conspiracy takeover bureaucrat if you need me to be and that's fine; this message is a warning to cease the behaviors I've mentioned, or I won't overturn the next time an admin is tired of the antics. Since this thread has gone far off point with no apparent reasonable topic left to discuss (feel free to take it up on my talk page if you disagree instead of cluttering this one further), the topic is closed, as the answer has been made clear.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Thank you, Raidarr.

Is anyone on here going to make a page for Star Fox Command? Am I the only one who thinks that it’s a terrible game?

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SuperJoJo (talkcontribs)

I’ve seen a page for Star Fox Zero on here, but not Command. Am I the only one who finds Star Fox Command to be even worse than Zero?

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Why are you telling particularly me, of all people, about this?

SuperJoJo (talkcontribs)

I’m just wondering. Command deserves hate more than Zero.

PlayStationForever (talkcontribs)

I made a page on that game long ago, it was deleted however. I agree that Command is terrible, it has terrible controls and a terrible plot that feels like a fanfiction.

SuperJoJo (talkcontribs)

Why did it get deleted?

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Eh... well, this game is certainly a mixed bag. I've never played it, but I have heard mixed things about it, so I dunno know if it should be on here or AGW.

SuperJoJo (talkcontribs)

It should be on here.

About the very odd comparison of Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite with Fire Emblem Warriors?

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Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

I ask because both had the same character roster criticism/controversy of being mostly focused on certain characters examples Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite Marvel side characters being mostly MCU/Disney Marvel characters with almost no one else from the Marvel brand namely X-Men/Fantastic Four and Deadpool being MIA in the roster for Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite case, and for Fire Emblem Warriors case the character roster in that game was mostly Shadow Dragon, Awakening and Fates focused respectively (both the base game and DLC respectively) with only two characters coming from other games in the series Lyndis from The Blazing Blade and Celica from Echoes: Shadows of Valentia respectively. A humongous downgrade from Koei Tecmo previous Nintendo Musou effort Hyrule Warriors which it roster base game and DLC respectively covered the entire Zelda universe and lore at the time of release.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Um... I removed that statement because Fire Emblem and Marvel vs. Capcom are completely different franchises and comparing one to the other just doesn't even make any sense.

Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)
SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

At least that Cartoon Network Crashers game can be somewhat compared to Jump Force since both of them are fighting games, while Fire Emblem and Marvel vs. Capcom are two different genres; the former is an RPG series while the latter is a fighting game series.

Besides, mentioning Fire Emblem Warriors in that Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite page was kind of unnecessary, and didn't add a lot to the page.

Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

ok see your point!

RaymesisEvil (talkcontribs)

At least the graphics of Fire Emblem Warriors look very good compared to this ugly monstrosity.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Hey, at least Three Houses was made with compitence and effort.

Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

Fire Emblem Warriors character roster in that game was mostly lazy as it only focused on Shadow Dragon, Awakening and Fates characters and content both the DLC and the base game with only two characters coming from other games in the series Lyndis from The Blazing Blade and Celica from Echoes: Shadows of Valentia respectively. A humongous downgrade from Koei Tecmo previous Nintendo Musou effort Hyrule Warriors which it roster base game and DLC respectively covered the entire Zelda universe and lore at the time of release.

Sonicx9us (talkcontribs)

Too be frank Fire Emblem Warriors on the Switch looked more like a HD res New 3DS given the game was cross gen on the New 3DS and Switch at the same time!

For your information

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FatBurn0000 (talkcontribs)

I am not saying people can't say what they want. I'm saying that the pages should use proper language, because that way, we won't have a bunch of pages saying different words for the same thing. Not to mention if we use proper language, it should be clear to everyone what we're talking about.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Well, regardless of what people say, others will still understand what they mean, so can we please drop the subject?

FatBurn0000 (talkcontribs)

Fine, but proper language should still be used.

Warning: Page restoration

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Allistayrian (talkcontribs)

Referring to the pages of DmC: Devil May Cry and two Destiny games, I would like to warn you not to restore pages about specific games with reception contrary to the wiki they require. If you have enough reliable sources (not including Metacritic and other similar sites) to keep certain games here, you should create a topic on the talk page first, as doing so in complete silence will only get you into trouble. If this happens several times, I will completely lose faith in Qualitipedia.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

Sorry about that; it's just that most of the time, I've heard mostly critical things about that these games. Hell, the reception section on the Destiny 2 page even says that gamers have unfavorably recieved the game, and also, I'd actually plan on adding some reliable sources to the DmC: Devil May Cry page.

Allistayrian (talkcontribs)

You may have heard but... Can they be considered reliable? Speaking of DmC, this game was genuinely received positively by the majority, while fans of the series are not only a niche, but also some fanbases can be toxic (example: the Sonic fanbase; both too specific and toxic), which makes them unreliable. While Destiny games on the other hand were criticized at launch, especially the first game, but I think the pages are way too outdated and only focus on launch, instead of recent updates. On Steam, Destiny 2 receives very positive reviews, which makes unfair to include these games on the CGW. A page about the launch of two games will be more suitable than making two pages about them, especially considering the later reception of these games (and it is worth noting that the ratings on Metacritic are largely based only on launch of the games, so you should not take these ratings seriously after a few years). Example: Sonic Unleashed, which was criticized in earlier years, was later very liked by players, just like Destiny games since Bungie became an independent publisher of two games.

SuperStreetKombat (talkcontribs)

What about other games that had a rocky launch like Street Fighter V or No Man's Land? Should those still have a page here?

As for DmC, what about other games like Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, Final Fantasy XIII, and Soul Calibur V that are inherently good but are considered bad games in their respective franchises and are hated by their respective fans, which are just a small minority? Should those stay here too?

Allistayrian (talkcontribs)

These all mentioned by you games can stay because:
1) Nuts & Bolts and Final Fantasy XIII were indeed considered as disappointing games by checking out several YouTube videos and mixed reception by actual audiences, not just a fanbase.
2) Games with poor launches can stay here, especially if they're updated, saying in which versions the page is based.

I'm not sure about Soulcalibur V.

GreenGreen (talkcontribs)

And besides, No Man's Sky was an extremely flawed game with broken mechanics and numerous amount of bugs, in fact the same can be said for Street Fighter V since that game was mostly half baked at launch and Capcom still keep doing bad things to it before the arcade edition came out, so technically SFV and NMS can stay since they had a lot of flaws at launch unlike the Destiny games where they seem to be fun games I'll have to admit but the only bad thing about them was they're launch while both NMS and SFV however suffered other flaws aside from they're launch, mainly the mediocre gameplay and broken mechanics that felt outdated at best. That's my honest opinion, but you can disagree whenever you like, I won't attack you for it, since I'm a pretty nice person if a bit biased at times due to my social issues at home since I have them a lot and make me uncomfortable around other people and since I'm also very sensitive, I tend to feel timid at times, though not by much. Now about the user scores of the Destiny games, they only seem to rather outdated by today's standards since the games improved from their launch today, which could make the page rather outdated at most, so I'm kinda glad that they were deleted since I feel as if the game didn't fit CGW in the slightest, but I don't know, that's my opinion and only my opinion at best, so really 😅 I can't say anything about that.